Time and again, Jillian Michaels is one of of my favorite people to interview.

Jillian is a font of excellent health, fitness and—best of all—life experience. And this sit-down with her, for the October 2015 issue of Health magazine is yet one more dose of her best.

When we met on the set of her new show Sweat, Inc., (which premieres Sept. 20th on Spike TV) she talked about fitness at every decade of your life, surviving failure and marriage equality. And her “trick” for approaching something you fear is my favorite advice yet — it’s at the end of the story, which you can read in full here on the Health.com website.

Do yourself a favor: Read. Enjoy. Go for it.

—Amy